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  Scottish Convention Revelation!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  some circuit overseer gave a talk and made this statement - "jehovah will very soon resurrect millions of people.....".

  "soon" is so old hat now - "very soon" will become the new buzz words in j.w.-land..

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  Half banana

  “Millions will very soon be resurrected” is even more implausible than “Millions now living will never die.”
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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  Ok Vidiot... 'crucified' for their lying..............but I do hope so!

  For goodness sake, the foot soldiers of the org slave away imagining that their leaders are chums with the Almighty and that they are incapable of lying or any skulduggery...I hope this investigation by the commission shows how pathetic they really are and how removed they are from the ideals of divine workings which they foist on the rank and file.
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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  (thanx Vidiot)

  It clearly seems that Angus meant "captive" in the sense that the JW org holds its members captive. This is an unchallenged truism for anyone who has tried to leave, yet the under oath the WT man denied it!

  The organisation are going to be crucified for their lying...
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  Just for the record Vincent Toole and Terrence Obrien you are both lying SOBs

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just thought i would mention this on the off chance they might be lurking here.

  the two quotes are.

  (1)vincent toole ="i've never heard of the term 'theocratic warfare'".

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  Half banana

  To deny that you have never heard of theocratic warfare is the first response from someone who uses it.

  As regards the matter of people leaving without being viewed negatively; this lie is one of their primary doctrines!
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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  Angus Stewart calls the JW religion a captive organization

  by oppostate in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if you watched the questioning of terrence o'brien by angus stewart at day 7 part 3 on youtube--thanks so much for uploading these videos--you'll see that mr. stewart puts quite clearly to brother o'brien that the jw 0rganization is a "captive organization".. he makes this reference regarding the practice of da/df'ing and shunning, which he mentions is the one thing that makes ex-jw's the most angry.

  because insisting on shunning ex-members causes psychological trauma and separates people from their family, friends and their community of support; therefore, they are held captive by the organization if they don't want to lose those most dear to them.. i believe angus stewart is to be commended for seeing clearly what the wt/jw religion is truly like in practice, and it isn't pretty.. the term "captive organization" is usually used in finance to mean a business front, a legal veil that shields the parent company from liability and having to make big insurance payouts.

  for example if the australian branch gets sued and loses, the "wt australia" corporation will pay the amount awarded by the judge to the complainant.

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  ---As you say Love uni---it sounds like Angus Stewart knows exactly how devious the WT cult is and uses the words “captive organisation” with full understanding of its more important legal business meaning (as already mentioned by Oppostate):

  by Chris Hamilton, Demand Media

  "Captive organizations primarily provide insurance to the parent organization that created them. These organizations act a legal veil that protects their parent in the event of a large insurance payout, while other businesses simply want to use captives to keep insurance segregated from their main business for liability purposes. Associations, industrial entities and companies all utilize captives in order to gain tax benefits, save on insurance costs and obtain special coverage."

  It looks to me like he is building up to a big exposure of the devious methods this shabby cult is using to enforce its will on its followers, let alone its disregard for the welfare of its abused children.
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  Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

  i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

  first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

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  Human activity is driven by thought. As part of our mental equipment we assess the outcome of actions before we start, this is one way we evaluate the effectiveness of what we chose to do. This faculty for foreseeing the future is a component of all we do in life, work, sport, education, family and business. Any function of the mind can be developed to a high degree and sometimes to an obsessive or pathological extent.

  Religion, in the absence of scientific evaluation and the use of logic in the philosophical sense, has forever grasped the words of visionaries to further their hold over the gullible. Look how the schizophrenic Joan of Arc was used politically and then consider the Bible writer Paul who said with reference to his works that he did not know how he wrote, “Whether in the body or not.”

  Extreme mental phenomena were powerful exotic experiences enough to convince the man on the Clapham omnibus that they came from God.

  Our minds are the faulty interpreters of not just rational and irrational thought they also conflate memory and emotion as well... and here is where the religious mind is found; drawing comfort from the mental possession of brain patterns which have their own non-philosophical ‘logic’ which is not dependant on evidential truth but simply coherent within its own terms of reference i.e. the unsubstantiated premise that, “there must be a God.”

  Therefore I suggest that if one has a highly developed sense of outcome and future eventuation, occasionally if not frequently success with ensue. Prophecy is a religious institutionalisation of this very faculty, spoken of with elevated awe but in real terms normally a failure. But to suggest that foretelling outcomes accurately originates with divine sponsorship; ignores the profound workings, biases and the pathology of the human mind.

  Not saying you are ‘pathological’ Andrekish!... but I was just having a stab at the subject you brought up. And thanks for your story.
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  Quality Thinking - Warning: Long Post Ahead

  by Viviane in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  recently, several threads have had some debate about logic, evidence, critical thinking and skepticism.

  i wanted to write a post discussing those things, hopefully to clarify what those things are, why they are important and how to use those tools.

  first, logic, at its core, is simply a method for how to reason validly, how to draw conclusions based on a premise.

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  Half banana

  Ron, if the Bible says so...you don't have to trouble the brain cells.
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  Jwfacts tv appearance

  by sparrowdown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  shout out to jwfacts.. just saw the drum.

  excellent job !

  !.

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  Half banana

  I like he fact that he spoke like a Witness does, using their terms, so that Jdubs could identify with him.
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  Why aren't the Governing Body members being investigated in the ARC?

  by Illuminated in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  when there's a malfunction in a product that causes an injury or death, the head of the corporation is held accountable not the salesmen selling the product.

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  why aren't the governing body members being investigated when they are the root cause of the child abuse issues and the re-victimization that takes place after?.

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  Half banana

  You make good point Stan, I think they should trundle their wooden bovine idol YHVH into the enquiry room and ask him directly.

  Or perhaps the gold version works better?